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Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/31/2010 5:25:21 PM
Message:
Jeep,
That is a load of crap!
Yes, I have a problem with teacher's pay. Teachers today are too busy "boo hooing" about their pay that they REFUSE TO TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR CLASSROOMS. In the real world, someone who gets paid more than $20,000 produces results or gets fired from the job! This is called professional motivation!
The studies you are talking about are mostly homeschooled I bet! Why? Because the schools are not teaching the kids anything.
You use the example of principles not disciplining the students. Unless it's a major offense, the teacher's should be able to handle it. If the principle is indeed not doing their job then file a complaint to have them removed... but then again we have been teaching our children for the last 25 years to "not make waves" and to be "a yes man/woman" (aka brown noser).
You ask if it is the teachers fault that parents don't make the students study. Yes it is. If parents knew their child would fail the class, they would demand their child do the homework. The problem with this is employers demand that the parents work any shift, any day, and they are not home to make them.
You say the class sizes are a factor. This is a load of crap. Like with any office job, they need to organize their time better and if need be take it home to do after hours like the homework the kids do. The class size has nothing to do with being unprepared. In fact why should a student be prepared if their teacher cannot be professional enough to be prepared for class? I have met several teachers that are uneducated in their field of study and unable to perform the classwork they were hired to teach!
In my day, if the students that did not study or do homework ended up as the janitor, sanitation worker, or they joined the armed forces.
And finally... back in the day a child would never have talked back to a teacher because the teacher HAD CONTROL OF THE CLASSROOM.
No, teachers are not rich but they make more per year than most of the present workforce! Try teaching for minimum wage... that's what most of the workforce is making right now.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 9/1/2010 4:44:22 PM
Message:
Jeep,
You present a nice case but by checking the Bureau of Labor online I found that in GA teachers get between $47,000 and $100,000 depending on if they teach elementry through HS. The best salaries are... you guessed it... the administration, who by your example will not even discipline a child! Their job!!
For perspective, in GA:
EMT/Paramedics make an average of $31,580 / year
Firefighters make an average of $35,180
Police/Sheriff Officers make an average of $39,370
Surveyors make an average of $45,000
I throw in the Surveyors because they are required to get a 4 year degree,take classes that are by far tougher than most classes a teacher ever takes, renew their license, and take refresher classes as technology changes.
By your post,I would assume you are saying that a teacher's job is so much harder than a police officer, fireman, or EMT.
To answer your question, since you evidently did not read my previous posts on the subject, I AM NOT A LIBERAL< SOCIALIST< COMMUNIST< GAY< LESBIAN< QUEER OR ANYTHING ELSE YOU MAY SUGGEST. I just know a load of crap when I see it.
For your own perspective: There where many people who never finished school, or went at all, that were taught by teachers without a college degree that are more intelligent than the ones today who have teachers with a Masters or Phd. That means the teachers are not teaching. Period.
Name: Rob
Date: 9/1/2010 7:46:54 PM
Message:
Great posts, Jeep. You are soooooo right. Thank you.
Name: Curious
Date: 9/2/2010 7:16:13 AM
Message:
R. Ellison what kind of job did you have that made you work any day any shift or you were fired?
Even as a teenager working fast food for minimum wage this did not happen.
I can honestly say that I do not know anyone making minimum wage and working under these circumstances. Georgia does have LABOR LAWS.
In my day talking back to a teacher was a MAJOR offense!
Name: jeep
Date: 9/2/2010 10:19:09 AM
Message:
Ellison.....EMT's, firefighters, and policeman are NOT required to get a minimum of a 4 year degree! Starting salary for teachers in Georgia is NOT $47,000. As for the $100,000 like you said administrators NOT teachers make this.
Here's another example, Georgia State Troopers receive 33 weeks of education and after 18 months on the job make $40,000 .
Back in your day when you rode a mule to school instead of a bus and were taught by someone without a degree you were NOT taught Calculus or Trig in high school. Advanced degrees are NEEDED to teach our children.
Is this really your best argument! SAD!
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 9/2/2010 11:07:37 AM
Message:
Curious,
I think you may need to read the GA Labor Laws.
According to the FLSA (DOL rev. July 2010) "FLSA does not limit the number of hours in a day or days in a week an employee may be required to work including Overtime hours" on employees over 16 years of age.
Child Labor Laws is the only law that restrict the hours/days worked are for those workers in high school and under 16 years old.
In fact, GA is an "at will" state and has no laws against employee "slavery" except the FLSA sections on requirement to pay, equal pay and minimum wage.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 9/2/2010 5:20:33 PM
Message:
Jeep,
Thank you for your opinion but teachers are paid better than MOST people.
I ask one simple question... What should I think when its on the news that 47% of people between 18 and 30 cannot even name the first President of the US, find the percentage of 3/4, or know how to spell a word without cellphone abbreviations?
Name: jeep
Date: 9/2/2010 6:20:06 PM
Message:
Ellison....where do you get this data? The median pay in 2009 for ALL individuals was $50,303. The mean (average) was $68,424.
here's the link
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_average_income_per_person_in_US_in_2009
Teachers make AVERAGE pay!
Here's the thing, I think our public school system SUCKS! I agree with you on that. To say it's the sole responsibility of teachers is crazy. The GOVERNMENT tells teachers what to teach.
Name: Rob
Date: 9/2/2010 6:22:31 PM
Message:
Ellison, you're an idiot. Pure and simple. You are the product of an era that survived because of personal responsibility, yet you ooze contempt for teachers while ignoring the problem with a generation of students who won't learn, don't care, whose parents gave up years ago while entrusting the raising of their children to complete strangers.
You are a complete and total enigma. Tell me, O Wise One, did YOU go to public schools? I'm quite sure you will defend your own education. Maybe you even agree that you get out of education is equal to the effort you put into it. Or do you think we just plug these young idiots into the Matrix and force knowledge into their subconsciousness's?
And for your damned info: the starting salary of a teacher is roughly $25-30K per year, depending on their level of education. Still think teachers make too much money? How about a teacher with two master's degrees earning $45K per year? Commensurate with the salary of your average plumber or electrician. If these salaries get much lower you will end up with teachers with GED's and a certification course teaching your grandchildren.
Or maybe that's your whole point: that's what you think is reasonable.
Name: Big Easy
Date: 9/3/2010 10:11:14 AM
Message:
I fully support our teachers and agree they need to be paid more but for any of them to complain about what they make is ridiclious when they knew going in that the pay was limited. There is or was a pay scale on the boards website showing what their pay would be based off of degree(s) and length of employment.
C'ya
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 9/3/2010 10:21:49 AM
Message:
Rob,
If a teacher has two master degrees and wants more money then they should teach at a college. Then again, if they taught at a college they would have to produce scholar level work.
BTW,The $50,000 salary was Jeep's example and I verified it through the Department of Labor and Bureau of Labor stat sheets. Oh, argumentative one, the amount is an average yearly salary and yes, it is based on education. The least qualified make the least salary.
The solution to the problem of slacker students is to weed them out so the real students can benefit from the resources the school has. Perhaps we can take the students that don't want to learn and teach them 8 hrs a day how to flip burgers, run a register, and be a drane on the system.
The thing is... teachers are getting paid to educate the students. If they refuse to learn, throw the students out of school. Let them see how hard it is to earn a living without the HS diploma. (that is if they don't start selling drugs) If we do this we will find an endless amount of fastfood employees and a better educational system with a surplus of funds.
In reality, we have students that are studying remedial level, the schools (who have the kids 8 hrs a day/ 5 days a week/ 9 months a year) are passing the blame to the parents (who employers require to work longer hours now), the parents look to the schools and finds the schools uncontrolled, undisiplined, and really a waste of money for not educating their children.
Bottom line is... if the parents are going to be the ones educating the kids, then why do we need teachers? If everyone homeschools their kids, then there will be no need for teachers. Teachers will be unemployed with two masters degrees and dreams of the good ole days.
Name: BigMac
Date: 9/3/2010 1:02:01 PM
Message:
If we taught all the slackers to flip burgers they would unionize and my Big Mac would cost me $25! BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR
Name: Rob
Date: 9/3/2010 2:05:16 PM
Message:
Where have you heard that teachers demand more money? I'm speaking of our local teachers, by the way. Not the teachers union liberals. For the most part, our teachers are not screaming for more pay. They are under pressure from witch-hunters like you, though. You can't make them learn. Even if they manage to ride the pass-fail border for a few years, eventually an administrator will pass them up in many cases. It is a very simple mind that summarily blames the teacher for all it perceives is wrong. That bandwagon is full.
Nobody said parents should be educating their kids, but if they do-GOOD. maybe government should get out of the school business. It's just another social program anyway, but that's another discussion. Liberals have seen to it that generationally parents want their kids to be somebody else's problem. You can easily tell which kids in school have a strong family unit with good values. They typically are more successful and better adjusted.
In the entitlement age, thanks to liberal socialists like you, a single parent with no baby daddy gets paid for each child she pumps out and (usually) puts them under the care of other people ( schools) and there is simply no teaching them anything. People you have been voting for all of your life have created/fueled this problem- from the kids right to the schools. So of course all you can do is blame the teachers. Makes you feel less culpable.
COMMENT
Name: Earl Greyhound
Date: 8/30/2010 11:17:49 AM
Message:
Y'all are all wrong on the problem with education. The biggest failing the schools have is the idea that we need to teach the kids things we want them to know instead of things they already know. There needs to be a way for the uninspired, don't give a *&^% students to measure up. The misguided belief that you might somehow motivate cracks me up. Let's face it in this country for every George Washington and Obama, there is also a Thomas Coolidge (Calvin's brother) who just hung out at the White House and bet on ponies. These types also need help with their schooling so they can get through and out into the workplace. Because from what I've seen in the real world, people who clearly don't have a clue and don't give a flying rat's *&() dominate much of the workforce. The idea that students need to "achieve" is something we adults are imposing on them when many clearly want to slack.
Other thoughts on this.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/30/2010 4:08:35 PM
Message:
The kids are not inspired!!
That's right... this generation realizes that they are just "slaves" to the company.
They are expected to work when, where, and how the company tells them to. If they get injured... the company replaces them. If they ask for more than minimum wage... the company fires them. If they report dangerous conditions... you guessed it... they fire them.
Why should they be motivated? All the company will allow them to be is a grill clerk or cashier.
Name: Rob
Date: 8/30/2010 4:14:59 PM
Message:
This post confused me, too. Watch for my letter in this week's Progress. There are so many issues that exist beyond just the over-simplified act of getting rid of "underperforming" teachers. I think we have been trying to say for a long time that accountability starts with the student,the parents, and travels all the way to the top.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/30/2010 8:28:49 PM
Message:
Rob,
Give it a rest already.
Most of the students today cannot go to college because they can't pass an entrance exam! WHY!! Because the teachers are not teaching the kids!
Say what you want but the teachers have control over them 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 9 months of the year.
The students that do go to college most likely taught themselves!
I say lets get rid of the dead weight and get qualified teachers who can do more teaching and less worring about their $60,000 salary. During my years in school no teacher made that much money and they did more with an Associate Degree than the current taechers do with a Masters and PhD.
Name: Earl Greyhound
Date: 8/31/2010 9:18:54 AM
Message:
You're missing the point. The kids that go to college are those that either want to go and work at it or have parents that regiment them into wanting to go. The kids that fail to get into college need to babysat at high school until they can take up their slacker places working at chain restaurants or Walmart. As the great philosophical work CaddyShack argued, "the world needs ditchdiggers too."
If the kids aren't worried about learning anything, then why should we worry about "learning them" as the ol timey folks used to say. In the real world do your respective bosses worry about your health and well being? Not to any serious degree. So let's let the kids get used to the real world in High School -- don't teach them anything they don't already know, it's comfortable that way.
Name: jeep
Date: 8/31/2010 10:26:34 AM
Message:
Ellison.....If it's ALL about the teachers than why do studies show that parent involvement make better students. Why do better run schools produce better students. Is it the teachers fault if she/he has a principal who refuses to discipline kids that are sent to them? Is it the teachers fault if a parent does not make their child study and do homework? Is it a teachers fault that class sizes have been increased and planning time has been cut?
"Back in the day" kids would never dream of talking back to a teacher or not doing homework because not only would the principal paddle them Mom would ground them. Your real problem seems to be with teacher pay! Teacher are not exactly rich.
Name: jeep
Date: 8/31/2010 12:17:23 PM
Message:
Earl....Look back at your graduating class. What would have happened if that theory was used. Did the person elected "Most Likely to Succeed" go the farthest? How many of those kids you thought would end up "ditch diggers" actually are in low paying jobs? You can't decide a childs future in High School.
Name: pinto colvig
Date: 8/31/2010 1:10:15 PM
Message:
school systems are gentrified. better performing schools are generally in wealthier communities, where property values are higher, generating more taxes to pay for better facilities, better teachers, better after school programs, better administrators, etc. also wealthier families, with stay at home moms who dont have to work all the time, tend to pay more attention to their kids' education. plus the property owners dont mind paying higher taxes for better schools, so these communities have higher millage rates. poor communities are where the crappy schools are because the slums don't generate too much tax dollars.
Name: jeep
Date: 8/31/2010 5:32:05 PM
Message:
Pinto's right!....did I really just say that
COMMENT
Name: linda
Date: 8/27/2010 4:15:58 PM
Message:
YAY!! Way to go Bubba Latimer of BubbaQ BBQ Restaurant! Watched you on TLC's Pitmasters last night, you should have won but a very proud 2nd place!!! WAY TO GO!!! If you haven't tried BubbaQ Restaurant please do! Its very good!
Name: Bob Hayles
Date: 8/30/2010 9:47:15 AM
Message:
Tried it. Fair BBQ but not great. Prices too high.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/30/2010 4:10:12 PM
Message:
Bob,
It is a little expensive but not everyone eats at McDonald's everyday either.
Name: jeep
Date: 8/31/2010 10:14:09 AM
Message:
Ellison.....you actually eat somewhere besides DQ!
Cletus....it may be safe to go to DQ again!
Name: pinto colvig
Date: 8/31/2010 12:14:14 PM
Message:
Bob I suspect you wouldn't know good BBQ if it climbed up your rear end. go back to the goat farm...
Name: Bob Hayles
Date: 8/31/2010 1:17:29 PM
Message:
Ellison, I'm not sure if you are implying I eat at MickyD's, but if you are rest assured I don't. The last time I was even in a MickyD's parking lot was three years ago when I was picking up my son who worked there nights after school.
That crap will kill ya.
Actually, I mostly do that rare thing called cooking...real cooking, not microwave frozen pizza and Hot Pockets. Hell, I don't even own...or want...a microwave. Tonight I'm having baked wild caught salmon with a lemon sauce over rice pilaf and asparagus as a side.
What kind of swill are you having?
Bob Hayles
http://www.juicymaters.com/homesteading
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/31/2010 5:32:32 PM
Message:
Bob,
I'm just stating facts. The price of the food is not as cheap as McDonald's. Period.
Being that you cook your own food, you would probablly not realize how the prices have climbed over the last two years.
BTW, I'm having a nice slice of pork roast, green beans, carrots, and for dessert a slice of apple pie a la mode. All cooked right here at home by myself. Would you like to come over for supper?
Name: Rob
Date: 8/31/2010 7:44:30 PM
Message:
I actually like Bubba-Q. Partake every few weeks or so. The pork is really good, tater salad is good, and the service is excellent.
Name: Bob Hayles
Date: 9/1/2010 5:08:13 PM
Message:
It sounded good...until you said apple pie a la mode.
Actually even that sounded good...but since I'm diabetic I'll have to pass.
Thanks anyway.
Bob
COMMENT
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/26/2010 7:54:21 PM
Message:
Moderator,
I like the new forum. Very organized and tidy looking.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/27/2010 1:59:37 PM
Message:
Here is an example of what I was saying about you people. My post was in praise of the moderator's change to the board for the better and Cletus slams me for no reason on it.
What a jerk!! Go back to your shack boy!
Name: jeep
Date: 8/27/2010 2:08:32 PM
Message:
Cletus....I hadn't thought about it that way. I may have to rethink my views of the new format. Gives now meaning to the phrase Sh!t sinks to the bottom.
Name: Cletus Tubbs
Date: 8/30/2010 1:00:18 PM
Message:
my post was to slam what i see as a negative idiot and i did just that. don't have to get ur shorts in a bunch..
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/30/2010 4:17:44 PM
Message:
Cletus,
If you are going to shoot your mouth off on here, then I have the right to shoot back. If you don't want these kind of responses then you need to just keep your mouth shut!
I was praising the moderator for the organized layout of the board and you come along and yap like a drunk on Friday night. Like I said... get on back to your shack!
Name: Cletus Tubbs
Date: 8/31/2010 11:02:23 AM
Message:
ellison what is the rule for shooting your mouth off since you seem to know it very well. gosh i hate when i break a rule, don't you? i happen to think this new format is not very good other than it sends your messages to the bottom of the pile rather fast. that is a fact you can't ignore. by the way, don't refer to me as a boy, that is a racist remark and it offends me as it should you.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/31/2010 5:53:57 PM
Message:
Cletus,
I really don't care if you find the term offensive but in this context (you may want to invest some money on a dictionary) and according to the Webster dictionary it means
"an immature male. a male child from birth to adulthood"
I know times are tough down in the "holler" but I'll buy you a dictionary if you want one?
COMMENT
Name: Rob
Date: 8/25/2010 6:44:53 PM
Message:
Webmaster, it seems as though traffic isn't what it used to be. The format is too unfriendly, I think.
Name: jeep
Date: 8/26/2010 3:13:03 PM
Message:
been thinking the same thing.
Name: Bob Hayles
Date: 8/26/2010 3:19:57 PM
Message:
I like the nw format, though I can think of three specific tweaks I would do. Overall it's better. It might seem unfriendly now, but that's due to human nature's normal resistance to change.
COMMENT
Name: Useboobpend
Date: 8/21/2010 1:41:28 PM
Message:
DELETE THIS TOPIC!!
COMMENT
Name: Brian Cain
Date: 8/21/2010 1:07:13 PM
Message:
My mother taught me to keep my mouth shut if I had nothing nice to say. Sorry mom! If you are going to post your negative opinion or hateful comment on a message board, at least have the intestinal fortitude to write your name. We are all very proud and impressed with your ability to hide behind anonymity and take shots at people. In the Marine Corps we had a word for people like that: COWARD. Now excuse me as I get off my soapbox and watch as people attack me from the shadows!
Name: jeep
Date: 8/23/2010 10:45:38 AM
Message:
What's "intestinal fortitute"?
Name: MM
Date: 8/23/2010 11:53:44 AM
Message:
Mr Cain please allow me to explain why many choose to post anonymously.
1. Security. Unfortunately there are mentally unstable people in this world that take it very personal if someone has contradicting views.
2. They work in the schools/local government and posting under their real names would cause them to lose their jobs. Not a good idea in the current economy.
3. By being anonymous they can post what they truly feel without confining themselves to political correctness.
Now some reasons why posting anonymously can be a good thing.
1. It allows the rest of us to find out what's really going on.
One last thought for you, even if the poster puts a name like 'Brian Cain' on the post it really means diddly. Anyone can make up a name.
C'ya
Mickey Mouse
Name: Rob
Date: 8/23/2010 4:33:57 PM
Message:
What did I miss here? What was the negative post that riled up Cain? Rob is my name, so take it out on me.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/24/2010 12:00:50 PM
Message:
I'm Ronald Ellison (my actual name) I used an alias in the past but now I use my real name now that I know how non-confrontational these guys are outside of the board.
BTW, Rob is not his name but a nickname.
Name: jeep
Date: 8/24/2010 2:06:00 PM
Message:
In the spirit of Ellison telling his fictional...er I mean real name..I'll play along. My real name is Condoleeza Rice. I figure that's as believable as Ellison being his real name.
Name: Rob
Date: 8/24/2010 4:23:16 PM
Message:
Ellison, did I hear a "Nahhh Nahhny boo-boo" in that post of yours? "I use my latest real name, but ROB USES A NICKNAME!"
You're a goober.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/25/2010 7:47:07 AM
Message:
Mr. Robertson,
Now really. You said that was your real name and I corrected you.
If you know me by any other name... please enlighten us.
Name: jeep
Date: 8/25/2010 10:51:52 AM
Message:
Old Guard
Ronald Ellison
R Ellison
Crazy guy at DQ
Real estate investor
50 yr old man
60 yr old man
80 yr old man
Korean War expert
Screven County man
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/25/2010 6:09:56 PM
Message:
Jeep,
You and Rob sure sound the alike. Must be his b*t*h or something?
Like I said, this is my real name. I used the aliases until I found out how lame and useless you people are. All talk and no backbone. Since then I have nothing to fear by using my real name on here.
Name: Cletus Tubbs
Date: 8/26/2010 10:49:07 AM
Message:
and hey you!
Name: jeep
Date: 8/26/2010 3:12:05 PM
Message:
Ellison....that was actually kind of funny! Never been called anyones B*T*H before. Wonder why people searches don't bring up any Ronald Ellison's anywhere close to here? Surely such an intelligent man as yourself owns property, has utilities, etc. Especially since you are a real estate invester. Cletus is more likely to be using a real name than you. Thanks for the laugh!
Name: Cletus Tubbs
Date: 8/26/2010 4:30:50 PM
Message:
by cacky jappers, you use your real name because your a real man..now that gives me the shivers ellison.
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/26/2010 7:51:42 PM
Message:
Jeep,
Try a wider search. I found 154 references to me on google.
I found many references to "Jeep" but they all centered around a vehicle and not a person. Are you a 1944 model or a 1998??
Name: Rob
Date: 8/27/2010 5:44:39 PM
Message:
If Jeep is my B--tch, I'm afraid that elevates my status way beyond what I truly am. I'm not there. Jeep is too wise to be anyone's b--ch, I think.
Name: pinto colvig
Date: 8/29/2010 12:41:34 PM
Message:
jeep, no one believes you havent been called [section deleted] or at least u act like it...
Name: jeep
Date: 8/30/2010 10:55:00 AM
Message:
Ellison....I believe you're real! really I do! I'm just trying to figure out how you aged 30 years in 6 months, how you got all those secret korean war documents, and how a real estate investor can keep his name off real estate records. I'm amazed!
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/30/2010 4:20:05 PM
Message:
How? My name is not on any records up here but down south and up north. Just because I live here doesn't mean I work around here!
Name: jeep
Date: 8/30/2010 5:02:33 PM
Message:
Ellison...I said I believed you! Now about that ageing problem....do you think it could be something at the DQ?
Name: R. Ellison
Date: 8/31/2010 11:12:21 AM
Message:
Jeep,
Little "pushy" these days are we?
Give it a rest already!
Name: jeep
Date: 8/31/2010 12:21:05 PM
Message:
Ellison.....I'm not feeling "pushy". Just enjoying playing with you! You do make it easy.
COMMENT
Name: VOTE
Date: 8/19/2010 12:43:24 PM
Message:
HEAVEN AND HELL
While walking down the street one day a Corrupt Senator was tragically hit by a car and died.
His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."
"No problem, just let me in," says the Senator..
"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from the higher ups. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."
"Really?, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the Senator.
"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.
The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.
They played a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne.
Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who is having a good time dancing and telling jokes.
They are all having such a good time that before the Senator realizes it, it is time to go.
Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...
The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens in heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him, "Now it's time to visit heaven.."
So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity."
The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell."
So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell..
Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.
The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.
"I don't understand," stammers the Senator. "Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"
The devil smiles at him and says,
"Yesterday we were campaigning ... Today, you voted.."
COMMENT
Name: In the Arena
Date: 8/19/2010 7:17:14 AM
Message:
Mr Mitton seems un-appreciated and angry in his letter to the editor.
I will agree with him that the credit goes to those that throw their hat in the arena. So to ALL the PARENTS that have done this - THANK YOU!
Now maybe Mr Mitton will understand those "ranting" parents that stood up and threw their hat in the arena. Maybe, just maybe he'll get it.
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Name: Tking
Date: 8/18/2010 3:59:28 PM
Message:
I am looking for a job . please if you know anyone that is hiring let me know or send me a quick email I have experience in clerical work but am willing to almost anything from cleaning to what every is available Thanks
tking613@tds.net
Name: sasha
Date: 8/19/2010 8:22:55 PM
Message:
I wish you luck.Check out Wal-mart.If u dont get hired right away..just keep trying.
Good Luck,
sasha
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